Tendo City

*drool*


Haha, an SP!












Damn, I can't believe this is supposed to be in-game.




Holy CRAP.



Just wow.

Looks quite a bit better than on the N64.

The way they get the game to look that good is heavy use of high-resolution flat textures that give off the appearance of depth, a technique that they used a lot on the N64. Certaintly there's nothing wrong with that and it makes a good looking game without taxing the system so much which allows them to do other things.

There's an awful lot of bump-mapping and pixel shaders being used in BFD, and it really is the best-looking game on the X-Box.

It's a tough call with Doom 3 coming out on the Xbox too, but from these pics Conker is certaintly at or near the top so far.

Does anyone else think Conker looks... how do I put this... wrong with fur-shading?

Don't get me wrong, everything else about the game is gorgeous. However, the fur-shading on Conker looks rough and out-of-place. It stands out too much.

There's just no way that it could look like that on a normal television. Resolution and image quality like that? Let's just say that most TVs won't see that. But it looks extremely impressive.

What happend to the cute conker that didnt abuse achohol or use his penis as a weapon?

Rare killed him.

Vanished after the GBC game. :)

Quote:It's a tough call with Doom 3 coming out on the Xbox too, but from these pics Conker is certaintly at or near the top so far.

Doom 3 on a powerful PC looks great, but Doom 3 on the X-Box looks like crap. It's not even half as pretty as Riddick, which in turn isn't as pretty as Conker.

Quote:There's just no way that it could look like that on a normal television. Resolution and image quality like that? Let's just say that most TVs won't see that. But it looks extremely impressive.

Maybe not on your crappy little tv, but not everybody lives in the stone ages, bubba. ;)

I, at least, have an S-Video cable. Not much, but it makes a difference.

You won't get these resolutions unless your tv has 780p support, but it'll still look amazing.

Quote:Maybe not on your crappy little tv, but not everybody lives in the stone ages, bubba.

My TV isn't little... old, but not little. Unless you judge things by giant screens only? But I wouldn't call ~27" little. :)

And while most people may not have TVs as old as mine, I am also certain that most people don't have the hightech stuff like HDTV, 640p or whatever that stuff is, etc... maybe S-Video is common, but I'd bet more people than you think just run games on composite. Fewer among the hardcore perhaps, but then again plenty of hardcore gamers are students and the like, who often have old stuff...

Doesn't it only have rf inputs?

I just use AV myself. Big expensive TVs are just too... expensive. They are a luxery item that goes beyond normal luxeries like the video game systems I get. I know the image isn't the absolute best or whatever, and like EVERY TV I've ever seen, the edge isn't a perfect rectangle but rather is curved so the edge of the TV occludes the edge of the image (which sucks when you play a game with the health bar RIGHT at the top). I'm not sure WHY EVERY TV is designed with this CRIPPLING flaw, but they are, and it sucks. Okay, maybe the rich people's TVs don't have it. I don't recall seeing it on those "You'll never be able to afford this so just kill yourself" TVs on display in stores.

Quote:Doesn't it only have rf inputs?

I use the Composite(RCA) inputs on our VCR, OB1. Which connects to the TV via the cable line, yes, so otherwise I'd have to use RF. And it's mono. and it cuts off the edges of the picture. But it does have a nice big screen. :)

And DJ is right... for most people in this age group a really nice TV with all kinds of fancy modern features and connection methods is a luxury that you probably can't afford until you get a job that pays decently.

Money isn't why my family doesn't have a modern TV though. That is accounted for by the fact that they almost never use it and that for watching movies (including DVDs) it works just fine.

AV? That just stands for audio/video. DJ. I think you mean RCA, or composite cables.

You can get a nice flat screen digital tv (no overscan!) with s-video and component outs for under $300. Certainly that's not a "luxury for the rich" or whatever you said.

Composite/RCA is often called A/V, OB1. :)

A Black Falcon Wrote:I use the Composite(RCA) inputs on our VCR, OB1. Which connects to the TV via the cable line, yes, so otherwise I'd have to use RF. And it's mono. and it cuts off the edges of the picture. But it does have a nice big screen. :)

And DJ is right... for most people in this age group a really nice TV with all kinds of fancy modern features and connection methods is a luxury that you probably can't afford until you get a job that pays decently.

Money isn't why my family doesn't have a modern TV though. That is accounted for by the fact that they almost never use it and that for watching movies (including DVDs) it works just fine.

Like I told DJ, unless you think $300 or $400 is an insane amount of money to spend on anything, you do not need to be Mr. Money Bags in order to afford a nice tv.

BTW you do know that it doesn't matter what kinds of cables you use with your VCR as long as the VCR connects to the TV using shitty RF cables, right? Please tell me you know that. It means that you're connecting your consoles to the TV with RF cables.

A Black Falcon Wrote:Composite/RCA is often called A/V, OB1. :)

Not by people who know anything about audio/video electronics. Lots of people call all video games "Nintendo", but they're not correct.

Quote:Like I told DJ, unless you think $300 or $400 is an insane amount of money to spend on anything, you do not need to be Mr. Money Bags in order to afford a nice tv.

BTW you do know that it doesn't matter what kinds of cables you use with your VCR as long as the VCR connects to the TV using shitty RF cables, right? Please tell me you know that. It means that you're connecting your consoles to the TV with RF cables.

Ah, that would be true if I had good RF cables. But the only one I have is of poor quality and, while it works fine with my N64, there are always diagonal lines on the screen with the Cube... so it is definitely better than RF as I have it anyway. :)

I guess it's kind of like RF, but it's a lot easier to use. As for picture quality, I don't know. Never used true RF on this TV...

As for money, I don't exactly have much. Heck, I've bought like 15 games this year and only one cost over $20... :)

Quote:Ah, that would be true if I had good RF cables. But the only one I have is of poor quality and, while it works fine with my N64, there are always diagonal lines on the screen with the Cube... so it is definitely better than RF as I have it anyway.

What? I don't think you understood me. It doesn't matter if you have your GC and N64 connected with RCA cables to your VCR since your VCR connects to your TV with RF cables. So it's actually even worse than having your consoles hooked up straight to the tv with rf cables.

Quote:I guess it's kind of like RF, but it's a lot easier to use. As for picture quality, I don't know. Never used true RF on this TV...

Wait so it's not even rf? What is it then?

Quote:As for money, I don't exactly have much. Heck, I've bought like 15 games this year and only one cost over $20...

That's because you're jobless.

Quote:That's because you're jobless.

Well, pretty much, yeah. :)

Quote:What? I don't think you understood me. It doesn't matter if you have your GC and N64 connected with RCA cables to your VCR since your VCR connects to your TV with RF cables. So it's actually even worse than having your consoles hooked up straight to the tv with rf cables.

Worse? No, I'm sure it's not worse... why would it be worse? And anyway, a good Nintendo-brand RF connector would cost like $20...

Quote:Well, pretty much, yeah.

You're in college, bubba. You need a job.

Quote:Worse? No, I'm sure it's not worse... why would it be worse? And anyway, a good Nintendo-brand RF connector would cost like $20...

Use logic, ABF.

Let's say that we have two windows, one nice and clean (RCA) and one old and dirty (RF). If the window you use is the clean one, looking through it to the outside will be great, though of course not as clear as it would be if there were no window at all. Now if the window you use is the dirty one, looking through it to the outside will be crap, correct? Ok, now let's say you use both windows, the clean one and the dirty one. Obviously outside will look bad because the dirty window is right in front of the clean window. You still following me? Ok, remember how looking through the clean window was nice but not perfect? That little bit of imperfection is now being added to the dirty window, so now it's even worse than before. It's the same basic idea with the RCA and RF cables. Instead of having a single RCA or RF connection to your tv, you're going through both connections, which results in a connection worse than either of the two connections seperate. I hope that explained it well enough to you.

My universal [meaning it connects to the Xbox, PS2, and GC at the same time] S-Video adapter has served me well and it only cost me about $20.

And you upgrade to a more expensive s-video cable you'll notice an even greater difference in quality. S-Video--more than any other popular a/v cable--varies greatly in quality depending on if you get a cheap $20 cable or a more expensive $60 one. It'll make a huge difference.

I'd have to buy three though and that's a lot of money, well actually only two since I use the GC plus for my SNES and N64.

Just get one for the system you play with the most. It'll make a difference, believe you me.

But thing I like most about my universal S-Video adapter is that I don't have to constantly plug and unplug four little cables into a tv that's back up against the wall and extending an inch over the front of the bookshelf it's sitting on.

Well if convenience is more important than quality to you...

You can always get a switch box, you know.

Switch boxes...cost money.

Quote:Well if convenience is more important than quality to you...

Cost vs. benefit and so far I don't see the need to spend that much money and the hardship of messing with multiple cables just to get the image to like a few moltons clearer.

It would actually be more like the difference between RCA cables and the s-video cables that you now have.

I just don't care as much as you do, OB1, about this stuff. :)

Yeah I know you don't.