Hmm, I didn't think that the "Bring EB 1&2 (GBA) to the U.S." petition would be successful, but it looks like it
might work.
From
Nintendojo:
Quote:The official Nintendo magazine of the U.K. has within their latest issue a 5-page interview with none other than Mr. Shigeru Miyamtoto himself. In addition to a slew of other interesting questions and responses, one in particular stood out that should make a few of you happy:
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Nintendo UK: Is there any possiblity of the Mother 1&2 GBA collection coming out in English?
Miyamoto: We had high hopes for Earthbound, the Super NES version, in the US, but it didn't do well. We even did a TV commercial, thinking, "Hey... this thing could sell three million copies!" But it didn't. You might not know this, but there was a petition in the US, a 'Please make Mother 3' petition and it got about 30,000 signatures! After that, we thought "Wow... Earthbound fans are really solid".
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There you have it. Miyamoto himself has seen the Starmen.net petition that we at Nintendojo had previously "hosted" via a news article. Furthermore, with that kind of shocked response, the chances seem at least marginally better of the series creeping its way over to North America. Keep one's fingers crossed. (wj)
Source: Nintendo (Europe)
Cross your fingers!
I'm definitely crossing my fingers!! Bring on Mother 3...and make sure to put it on the GC!!
I think EB 3 has already been confirmed for the GBA. The lead developer (forgot his name) talked about it several months ago.
Wow, a video game petition working? That doesn't happen very often, for sure...
That's for sure, and as a matter of fact this petition itself won't actually be what gets it done, but it does seem that by some amazing miracle it's at least got the company to CONSIDER it. I will say this in defense of corporations ignoring petitions though. It's very hard to really confirm that each sig is actually from a unique individual. Even if IPs were logged, those can be generated easily enough and there's no way to proove they didn't make them up. It's very likely that some crazed fans could just sit around making up sigs for a few hours. More than that, a sig isn't a guerenteed sale. The company may well be aware that just because they signed something showing they want it doesn't mean they will actually get it (for various reasons, like not having the money, being a kid who's just hoping a parent will get it, or whatever). ACTUAL signatures however, those are provable simply because they all look different. Real world petitions are more effective because it's actual effort and more provable.
All that having been said, again, in this case the company is actually looking into it. This means that basically the petition made them think that they should at least check into it. They will not use the petition as evidence people want it it seems, but rather now will go about their own means of seeing if Americans want it, whatever those may be. If it does come out, even if they weren't directly influenced by the petition to release it, it can at least be said that the petition got the wheels rolling, and it's hard to say if they would have started rolling without this petition.
However, for the same reasons I don't bother gambling, I won't be bothering signing every single petition I see just because it MIGHT work.
Oh no.
Um, what?
Anyway, I certainly would hope Nintendo brings the Mother collection here.
Quote:However, for the same reasons I don't bother gambling, I won't be bothering signing every single petition I see just because it MIGHT work.
How could you consider signing a petition gambling? It's not like you can lose anything.
Yeah, DJ, that makes no sense...
Oh, and DJ... usually petitions don't work, but sometimes they do. And because sometimes they do, its perfectly reasonable to sign some that you agree with... if it might help why in the world not?
Because I slowly loose myself, that's why! I start saying idiotic phrases like "you never know" or "anything's possible".
Well remember to have a more healthy amount of skepticism then... :)
MORE skeptical? :D
Anyway, I just don't wanna waste my time on such things when it's almost certain to amount to nothing, that's all. There are many things I don't waste my time on even though there's nothing I will actually loose EXCEPT that time out of the VERY slim chance something good will come out of it, for instance, combing a beach with a metal detector.
It isn't like it takes that long to sign a petition. Instead of eating those two french fries you have left you could sign a petition, each would take about the same amount of time and besides fries make you FAT!!
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Because I slowly loose myself, that's why! I start saying idiotic phrases like "you never know" or "anything's possible".
Yeah I hate it when I
loose myself.
I'd RATHER eat those fries. You see, depending on chance is the worst thing anyone could ever do, EVER. Well, maybe mass genocide but that's about it. That's why people end up being 80 years old and working at McDonald's, depending on something else happening to make their lives better.
(Let's not mention that on the most basic level, the universe itself is comprised of randomness. That annoys me to no end.)
Allow me to reiterate: You can't lose anything by signing a petition!!
So? It's worthless almost every single time. I could instead spend a little more time actually doing something with a bigger chance of actually being paid attention to, like writing an e-mail for instance, and actually feel like I did something. I'd much rather spend that minute doing somethign else.
You could sign the petition while you are waiting for the email to be sent...or you could take a few of those minutes that everyone has when you aren't doing ANYTHING, and I know you have them because everyone does, and sign the petition.
Why? On the chance it will work? It's futile. I won't do it just on the off chance it'll work, even when I'm doing NOTHING I'd rather do that then sign some idiotic petition. It's like a chain letter. Sure, there's no harm in sending it on to 10 people, but it's idiotic and irrational.
Yeah, so idiotic and irrational that it got the attention of Miyamoto. :roll2:
This one did, but most will not ever EVER work at all ever EVER EVER absolutly not not not, and if I signed it, it would be like supporting nothingness itself! Don't you see? Do you not SEE?! EFFECIENCY, LOGIC, COLD HARD REALITY! THIS IS ALL THAT MUST BE! AHAHAHAHAHA! I mean, interesting...
Anyway, I just feel about this the same way I feel about sending an e-mail to that sick kid because if MS knows you sent her an e-mail she gets like 5 cents or something to cure the illness. Sure, ONE time this was actually true (that one time the e-mail had to be sent from a web site since there's no way to actually track anonymous e-mail since the internet has no central hub at all), but that doesn't mean I should waste time on the rest of them which are either outright lies or outdated by like 7 years.
I must admit, I almost never sign petitions... I just don't think they're worth my time and they never succeed. At least gaming ones don't, OB1 seems to think that some DVD ones do, but I wouldn't know... Which is why I am also very surprised that this one works -- gaming ones never work!
Still, I might sign one if I somehow ran across it and like the subject... but that doesn't happen much.
There are exceptions of course. If some valid proof of either kind of almost never worky thing was offered, I'd likely jump into it. For instance, the one "send an e-mail for cancer" thing that actually WAS true was hosted by a well known major company and had the logic of making you send via a page so they actually could count the e-mails sent for the kid. That's evidence enough for me there, but it's since been very effective and has been shut down.
For a petition, I dunno. First, I would have to know how they plan on presenting this petition to the company. Most petition.com petitions just kinda sit there waiting in blind hope for someone from the company to accidently stumble upon it. At least Starman.net's petition was actually sent in to Nintendo. More importantly, who are they sending it to? If it's just the lowest level mail room for stuff like "my controller doesn't work, should I plug it in or what?", then it's likely to get ignored. Sending it to someone higher up however makes it more likely to be seen. Starman.net did this too. Then finally, is the company open to petitions? Up until now, Nintendo hasn't said if they are open to them or not (likely to prevent a huge flood of petitions coming in), but it would seem that they are just SLIGHTLY receptive to them, in that they use them in a consideration to look into it more. Most petitions don't even bother with the first two, thus I don't ever sign them. This one bothered with the first two but seemed to just hope the 3rd would work out. Luckily, it seems, for now anyway *fingers crossed*, that it actually worked out a bit. Even if they had the first two in order, but the company has said before that it's clearly NOT open to online petitions (for whatever reason), then it's very logical to ignore it. Generally, I'm not going to look into all of that every single time someone presents me with one, and if this information exists, I certainly won't be commiting to an action without actually gathering it, so I stick with inaction :D.
If all three of these conditions are met (and they are usually not met at all) or if at least the first two are met and I just have this feeling the company will listen (thus it'll vary with my mood, nice and arbitrary like that :D), then I'll sign it. I remember the biggest game petition they had was a long time ago with the petition to package Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy IV together. That never worked because they never actually submitted the thing, but eventually, years after the petition was closed down, they did that anyway. It was just coincidence (after all, as the makers of the petition said, putting those two together just made such perfect sense, and I myself thought of it before even seeing the petition, so it's very likely Square would think of it sooner or later) though. That's why I was wondering if that DVD petition really worked or if it was just a coincidence (since, after all, widescreen had become very popular around that time anyway so they just probably threw out their own market research in favor of THAT info rather than the petition).
I'm not being fully defiant of these things you see. I just would like to know what on Earth they plan on doing with my signature.
(Oh yes, and it doesn't help that occasionally these petitions are just used to gather e-mail addresses for spammers...)